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Entry Archive: January 17, 2007

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Dave!Stop it.

Would Microsoft Windows sufferers who are still using Internet Explorer please just stop it? Go download Firefox or Opera or whatever, and start using a real web browser instead. I am tired of spending hours and hours tracking down the crap-load of bugs and quirks unique to Internet Explorer so that web pages display properly. It seems that every time I get to the end of a project, I find stuff that renders beautifully in regular browsers, but end up looking like crap in IE...

Browser Render

It's a real pain in the ass, so if everybody on the internets could just stop using it, that would be great.

Oh, and since the new Windows Vista version of Outlook f#@%s up HTML emails, if you would switch to Thunderbird or some other email client while you're at it, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!

Your friend,
Dave2

Firefox!

This sucks ass. Blogography has been fragged with a scrolling bug in IE for ages, and I've got no time to fix it because I'm too busy fixing everything else.

Why does Microsoft hate us so much?

Category Tracker: Internets × Macintosh 2007
   

Comments

I love you !!!

Posted by Laurence on January 17, 2007

   

I didn't know that about the new Outlook. That's good to know for the company emails I send out.

Posted by Avitable on January 17, 2007

   

Oh yes. They are going to be using Word's horrendously shitty rendering engine. As bad as IE is, this is far worse.

Posted by Dave2 on January 17, 2007

   

First off, F--- Microsoft. With that, I'm frightened that my company will wake up one day and decide to upgrade all us victims on PCs to Vista and then let the games begin!

I want my office Mac back :-(

Posted by Eve on January 17, 2007

   

So does this mean you won't be lunching with Bill Gates anytime soon?

Posted by Tug on January 17, 2007

   

Check and check. Actually I had switched to these programs when they first came out. My site looks sorta funked up in IE and I'm not fixing it.

Someone needs to teach a class to the IE users who set their screens at 800x640...just sayin!

Maybe one day you'll be able to lure me away from my PC...mayyyybe.

Posted by Hilly on January 17, 2007

   

Preach it, Brother Dave!

Posted by Joefish on January 17, 2007

   

firefox rules! what is WRONG with people!? sheesh.

Posted by ms. sizzle on January 17, 2007

   

I'm still trying to convert my husband over to Firefox. He's still using IE. I'm fairly certain this makes him a nazi.

Posted by Mia on January 17, 2007

   

I love you with firefox !!! :-D

Posted by Laurence on January 17, 2007

   

i hate internet explorer! i tell everyone who will listen to use firefox. i have to still use ie at work. but since i do my surfing on my mac at work, i don't touch it :)

Posted by aquababie on January 17, 2007

   

I agree with the whole IE thing, but as far as Outlook and HTML emails go: meh. I hate html emails anyway.

But then again...I don't use Outlook...except at work...where I'm forced to use it...on Exchange...although, I could use Thunderbird w/IMAP for exchange...but I use Thunderbird for personal mail checking @ work...

Oh...why can't we just get rid of technology altogether? Sure, it would put me out of a job, but sometimes, it feels like it would make life a whole lot easier.

Posted by Wench on January 17, 2007

   

You know here in France lots of people thinks that Mozilla's logo is really a fox in fire and no the tiny chinese red panda...

Posted by Sergio the frenchie on January 17, 2007

   

I was a firefox/thunderbird user at work...installed it shortly after it came out...can't say why I'm an IE user at home...Complacency perhaps?

Posted by nancycle on January 17, 2007

   

Hmm and on another note of things not working - it was PUBLICALLY announced on the news that anyone out here who might possibly want a iPhone can kiss apple's butt because they have signed exclusive contracts for service carriers, NONE of which are in Vermont, and Apple was reported as saying IF they decided they might want to expand to Vermont, it wouldn't possibly be before 2009, but they really didn't think we were that important.

I know you are an Apple worshiper, but can you at least admit they have a dark side?

*sigh*

Posted by Kyra on January 17, 2007

   

How do you do so that a page is equal in IE that in other navigators?

Turn-off the server

Posted by Francisca on January 17, 2007

   

Oh... Hi Sergio The Frenchie !!! :-)

Posted by Laurence on January 17, 2007

   

hey pretty cool being here ^^

i've got personnal message !

Bonjour Laurence !
je vais visiter ton blog !

Posted by Sergio the frenchie on January 17, 2007

   

Microsoft doesn't hate you. It just doesn't care that you exist. ;-)

Posted by Rick on January 17, 2007

   

If DirectX 10 wasn't a Vista exclusive, I wouldn't go near it. But alas...

Posted by James on January 17, 2007

   

They hate us for our freedom, Dave.

Our freedom.

Posted by Kachina Crowe on January 17, 2007

   

I rarely use IE at home. The problem is not home users, it's Korporate Amerika. Firefox and Opera are seldom deemed "approved," and installing unapproved apps is forbidden at most companies. Talk about a captive audience.

My advice: Screw coding for IE. It's not standards-compliant anyway.

Posted by Jeff on January 17, 2007

   

I love IE7.

I've found Firefox crashes more often... also FireFox breaks my sites, not the other way around.

Maybe that's because I'm a crap coder ;)

Posted by Zigire on January 17, 2007

   

I'm trying IE right now but it looks ok to me. What kind of problems have you had with it?

Posted by Jeff on January 17, 2007

   

I hate IE. I wish I could switch to Firefox at work but our IT administrator won't let us use it. But then again this is the same person that won't even let us change our desktop backgrounds.

Posted by Kyle I on January 17, 2007

   

What irks me are websites that obviously haven't been checked in Safari. I like Firefox, and I 've always got it open for back up when I hit one of those sites, but Safari is still my browser of choice.

My boyfriend and I got into a Mac vs PC discussion last night, and he said that both are necessary, since they're made to do different things. In a way I agree, but he claimed a Mac is great for graphic and multimedia work, but you need a PC for word processing and spreadsheets. Um, excuse me? Time for me to educate. Regardless of this strange belief of his, he's now decided his next computer will be a Mac. Another win for the Mac Whore Army!

Posted by Alexis on January 17, 2007

   

I haven't used IE in years. It sucks so much and my blog never displays correctly in IE. I just pretend it doesn't exist. Works for me!

Recipe is now on my site. Man, you're a nag! :-)

Let me know how it worked out for you. It really is totally easy, but it takes forever to make. I like it because it has NO FAT in it. Fat is our enemy. (my family, not you...you can probably eat lots of fat and remain sylph-like.)

Posted by margalit on January 17, 2007

   

Been using Mozilla then Firefox for years now and love 'em.

Then I started using Opera recently and am in total awe. Except for a couple of silly little quirks and the occasional site that won't work with Opera, it is simply sweet.

If Opera doesn't work I use Firefox2. If I *must* use some weird IE-specific site (occasionally for work) I only use the latest IE6 - won't touch IE7 for fear of breaking everything.

And no, I'm not planning to move to Vista. Only just updated one machine to XPPro and really like it - once I tamed it. Still run another on Win2KPro and it runs great.

My motto: If it's crap, toss it. If it works, use it. Don't upgrade unless you are forced to at gunpoint or really want to - and then be prepared to fall back if necessary.

Posted by Kapha on January 17, 2007

   

IE7 improves on the rendering engine somewhat but previous versions have just been a pain in the ass. Hopefully most IE people update to version 7 over the next few months.

Posted by Anthony on January 18, 2007

   

like Wench mentioned above, I have to use Outlook for my work email. O thought Outlook 2003 was bad (i'm the network admin/desktop support guy and well over 60% of my issues I deal with is with Outlook 2003 users).

Now I like Exchange Server... i've been working with that for over 10 years now. It's got it's set of quirks, but it's not too bad.

As for IE, it's rarely used here at home. I much prefer Safari and Firefox, of which the new 2.0 version on the Mac kicks ass. It's a nice upgrade that works very well for many sites. Safari and Firefox are about 50/50 for the amount of use they both get.

IE7 is something that we block at work, mostly because everything internally that's written only works on IE6 due to the tweaks and other changes that had to be made to make it work right. The developers don't really want to go down the IE7 path just yet.

Posted by ChillyWilly on January 18, 2007

   

Tell me about it.

Posted by Dan on January 18, 2007

   

Installing IE7 has caused out e-mail client (granted, it's Outlook 98) to crash when certain conditions are met. For example, if my ex-wife sent me mail in non-plain-text format and I tried to reply it would crash (and she was the only one I had trouble with).

Other people had similar problems. Removing IE7 fixed it every time.

Posted by delmer on January 18, 2007

   

Amen, brother. I'm at the point now - having used Firefox and Thunderbird for close to two years - where I deliberately avoid sites that say they can only be viewed with IE. Frak you, I say!

Posted by Karl on January 18, 2007

   

I think your audience is way too cool to use IE anyway.

Posted by sandra on January 18, 2007

   

Funny thing is I can't even get IE7 to work on my business computer. MS only offers two versions that can be downloaded and neither work with XP Service Pack 1 (I tried loading both and neither would). So I don't even know what kinds of things IE7 is screwing up.

Posted by kapgar on January 18, 2007

   

People still using IE6 can't comment on my blog. And I am too lazy to hack for IE6's padding rendering errors. Life's a bitch.

Posted by franky on January 18, 2007

   

My blog looks terrible in IE at 800 x 600. 47% of visitors use IE but only 13% are at 800x600. I feel sorry for them, but there's nothing I can do since IE sucks so bad.

Posted by yellojkt on January 18, 2007

   

I got my dad to switch to firefox several months ago. I'm still working on him about the email...

Posted by claire on January 18, 2007

   

   

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