I finally got a response from PayPal regarding my request for any actual evidence that a shirt payment was, in fact, unauthorized.... "We are not able to disclose any information for an ongoing investigation, Please help us with our investigation by responding to any question we have so we can verify that you are covered for the transactions."
Uhhhh, why are you not able to give me any information? Who's stopping you? I'm not asking for account numbers or any sensitive stuff... just a copy of notice that caused you to reverse the transaction so I can verify it with the bank. Since you are holding ME accountable for this shit, isn't that the very least you can do?
This is great. PayPal can take your money without any explanation. When you ask for an explanation, they won't give you one. Not only that, but they won't tell me if I will get the money back if the charge is found to be authorized. As far as I know, they will be keeping my money no matter what happens.
PayPal has got to be one of the biggest scams ever.
Since they will provide me with no proof, no evidence, and no information... I am just supposed to take their word for it that there is a problem? Well, I'm sorry, but if you won't tell me anything I have no choice but to look at this as theft. PayPal has stolen money from my account.
You steal from me mutha-f#@%er, and you had better run.
Do not make me fly down to San Jose and collect my $12.90. Trust me when I say that you do not want that.
I have been spending my PayPal money as fast as I can before they steal any more of it. Who knows... they might suddenly decide that ALL of my transactions have "possible problems."
What assholes.
Given all the outrageous shit that they do to people on a regular basis, why aren't they under investigation for fraud?
If you have a PayPal account, you might want to start looking for alternatives. This is a very scary company.
I agree 100%. Paypal has screwed me more than once. Instead of spending the money in my Paypal account I just had them transfer (for free) it back to my bank.
I only used them for ebay crap so from now on when I sell stuff I'll put a ebay handling charge on the auction so it'll be the buyer's cost. I'm not paying for their bullshit no more.
Have a PEACHY day! :D
OMG Davebo is freakin hot! You have to do a davebo comic strip! Um, no pun intended.
Posted by MRKisThatKid on April 07, 2006 | Reply
Frankly, I've never had any problems with them, but I am a little wary of them, if only because they seem to have a monopoly on the whole industry (well, then again, so did IE a few years ago). Anyhow, the reason I persist in using them is that I often conduct business with people who don't have access to any other services of a similar nature due to their location. PayPal serves many more areas than the others do.
So, here's hoping they don't screw me over.
Dave - after you clean out your account, you may also want to remove any associated credit cards or bank accounts. As part of their terms and conditions, you've given them the right to take from those accounts as they choose. So if your paypal account is empty and they are trying to collect back from you for any more "unauthorized" transactions, they have the right to go into your credit card or bank account to collect.
Posted by d-s on April 07, 2006 | Reply
I guess I've been lucky so far. The two PayPal-related conflicts I've had were both quickly resolved in my favor. They do pretty much have a monopoly, though. I don't know of any other similar service that's so widely accepted.
Scary thought: Can you still shop on ebay without PayPal?!?! Excuse me, I need to go lay down now. I feel shaky.
After reading your woes with PayPal I though about having a look at mine, thinking that I had a few pounds stashed there for random buying on ebay... Well, after they 'forgot' to pay my hosting fees, and I paid them with a trusty piece of plastic instead, I though the money I had left in there for the fees would (laugh) still be there... No, apparently they have taken it upon themselves to pay for my fees afterall...
I contacted my hosting company and they are refunding my card (bless them) with a minor tone of sarcasm about PayPal.
Part of me wanted to phone PayPal's customer 'service' line and yell, but I couldn't deal with the polite nonsense from them today.
So what you're saying is that you wouldn't recommend Paypal? Is that the vibe I'm getting? heh. Sorry for your misadventures. If I see Paypal HQ explode in a fireball on CNN I'll be thinking of you.
I see we're both doing the Lost Blogs thing next week, so I thought I'd drop by to check your blog out. Good stuff. I look forward to reading your entries next week.
Thanks for posting all that--I've been using PP with zero problems for years and years, but I'm looking into the Merchant account now.
And Davebo (I bet you anything I could actually find someone named that around here if I tried) is pretty hot, all right.
if you need a place to crash when you come to cali, let me know. i'm always up for houseguests and kicking ass and taking names. ;)
Posted by ms. sizzle on April 08, 2006 | Reply
Wow, I'm really behind in my blog reading. I *finally* get some time to myself, take a breather, spend some time with my kids, and sit in a chair in my living room and maybe watch some TV. I'll watch whatever. I'll even join a movie mid-way through. I don't care.
But then I sit and watch along... I think it's "The Rock". Then I remember I hate joining a movie from any time but the beginning, when the little paramount stars are dancing about the mountain or Pegasus is about to mount the sky. (remember when "Coming to America" came out? I think that was the first modified Paramount opening, where they had the tribal drumbeats and the camera scanned the forest for a while as it approached the mountain... that was very cool)
So I think... "I have some time. finally. what do I really want to do?" So I thought and thought and amazingly I wanted my laptop so I could read Dave. Well, not just read... Absorb. Collate within my mind. Let the words effervesce their way into my psyche.
I get online, launch FeedDemon and get a huge shock by seeing that the LAST FREAKING POST I READ WAS IN APRIL!?!?!?!?!?! How the hell did I survive without reading this stuff?
I eventually get past the shock and then what do I read, but Dave dissing Paypal. Oh no. At first, I'm like "Dude, I've been using Paypal since almost before it was paypal, I've run thousands of dollars through the system, paid w/paypal, been paid with paypal, moved money between accounts, and in general my life's been made easier by this tool."
Then I was like, "man, I need to try to listen to other people. They have experiences I can learn from and I can be a better person by applying other people's pasts to my analysis of the present so I can make a better future."
Then I was like, "dude, stop being such a wuss. Dave's gotta be a complainer or whiner, or worse, just not good enough to use Paypal and understand when he's screwed up."
Then I'm like, "whoa, man, yer talkin' about my Dave here. You say much more and you will lose the ability to speak."
Then I was like, "wtf you think you're talking to, holmes? I don't mean to quote my favorite bad guy in 'Breakin' but yeah, we's the dudes who're gonna put you under"
Then I'm like "when did I start using terms like 'I was like?'"
So I snapped out of it and realized the best thing I can do is just calmly post my experiences and give a balanced view. Maybe Paypal sucks and maybe it's awesome. I don't have my life savings in it, and I just use it as a tool. I will end up being more wary of it now since someone I know has had a problem with it (no-one I knew had a problem before this).
Now I can watch the ending of "The Rock" or flip on the "Colbert Report" that I DVR'ed earlier today.
Happy Blogging.
Posted by Wayne Hall on June 29, 2006 | Reply
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